Academy of Chiropractic Personal Injury & Primary Spine Care Program
Quickie Consult 1172
Infrastructure 250 I
Preamble: Many of the issues I bring to you are very small, yet each issue is just that, an issue. If you take care of the small issues, then you will be able to build and more importantly, focus on the bigger issues...a larger practice and more family time. -Mark Studin 2006
"Previous Doctor Incorrectly Reported History"
"Previous Doctor Incorrectly Reported Injury"
Guest Dr: An attorney sends me an email about a patient I sent to him and he said that he had a records from the joint and she about three days before she came to me, the joints said in her records she had neck pain 7 out of 10 and the attorney's like, what's going on? I talked to the lady, she said she had no pain before the crash. So the patient came in. I said, do they even ask you, what is your pain on a one to 10 and she says, no, they never asked me that. They just said, do you have neck pain and they never asked for a number, so I was calling you to see what…
Dr Studin: Here's the issue with the joint. It's been my experience. Did I really know nothing about them corporately? I only know it's get them in, get them out, don't charge a whole lot of money, don't do a whole lot of documentation, let's take the joint off the table for a second. Even though I know that I've been getting a lot of phone calls from licensure boards about the joint, the question is did the doctor lie of their documentation just to write something down? So I would have the patient write an active David format that the doctor never asked them any speaking about pain scales or pain, that's number one. I would request the records from the joint. You personally request the records and go through them with the doctor or with the patient. The lawyer's are going to need this for his case. Not that you do it to make a case that you want the truth to be brought out. I would read into a complaint and have the patient render a complaint to the licensure board of your state against this doctor stating the patient had never asked me any of these questions, it is not true and render a license or complaints. I was in the office for five minutes, six minutes I was in, I was out. I paid cash, but I never, ever was asked these questions. And then when you get a copy of the records, Hey, did they do, did they state they did up there a Patrick tests show the patient what if a bear Patrick, did the doctor do the chest wall? Yes or No. Pyramidal compression. Does the doctor do this? Yes or no. And if you've got 4 pages of documentation and the patient's safe, they were internet two minutes. None of this was ever done, I would write a statement saying, I work with Mrs. Jones, on the record of the chosen for Patrick. She said it was never done. The doctor said it was a 7 out of 10 pain. That was never done. I was never asked and on and on. The other question is why is the patient went to the joint first place?
Guest Dr: I mean, she was a longstanding patient of that joint. Then she got in the crash and they told her we don't take car accidents. And that's how she ended up in my app office.
Dr Studin: but she was just going from maintenance.
Guest Dr: Well she said she had neck pain but not that high.
Dr Studin: get a copy of their records first. And listen, then maybe it was like a 5 instead of a 7. You want to see what the truth is. Then maybe this doctor did nothing wrong and you don't want to turn his life upside down.
Guest Dr: But as far as the journey goes, she definitely has low back disc injury. She has a concussion, she's seeing all the other medical specialists. So he still has a case, even if she had a 7 out of 10 pain on neck and with the other areas.
Dr Studin: my answer is get a copy of the records. That's where you start. And then we have another conversation. let's take the patient out of the equation, if one doctor lies. You have to set the record straight. You understand and you know, and I'm a little more sensitive with the joint because it's been my experience. These doctors don't take a minute to document nothing. That's been my unfortunate experience, and I get very frustrated with that.