Academy of Chiropractic
Quickie Consult 1080
Curriculum Vitae 42 CV
Preamble: Many of the issues I bring to you are very small, yet each issue is just that, an issue. If you take care of the small issues, then you will be able to build and more importantly, focus on the bigger issues...a larger practice and more family time. -Mark Studin 2006
"Passing Voir Dire for Court (1)"
Dr. Studin: what's going on?
Guest Doctor: So, we're scheduled for trial today, yesterday in motions. I'm being brought in as both the treating doctor and the attorney for our side is also requesting me to come as an expert witness. So, my CV was brought up and the defense attorney for the insurance company basically said that they looked up Academy of Chiropractic. They lift up the fellowship online and basically anybody can pay 400 bucks and take any of these online courses. It's nothing more than anything that any random chiropractor can take for their required 25 hours of continuing education. So, there's zero. There's nothing special about this CV. It's just a stack of papers that every course he'd ever taken since he graduated from Chiropractor school plenty of years ago.
Dr. Studin: Okay. I appreciate Geico coming up with that defense and it's a wonderful, a deceptive argument. And the answer is, is the Academy of Chiropractic is nothing more than a middle man or a facilitator for the academic institution.
Every single course is approved from the Cleveland University, Kansas City or Texas chiropractic college or the University of Bridgeport depending where you are taking the course. Every course is required the doctor, you are required to take an examination and passed with a score of at least 80% or better. Many of the courses are also approved through the State University of New York at Buffalo School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences, which is approved through the ACCGME, which is the accreditation council for General Medical Education, which is the umbrella organization that accredits every medical school, a gradual course to the country. They have approved those courses as well. And for instance, the MRI course, you must take 12 examinations to get that credential. So yes, you do pay a fee. Yes, you do a 10 class, some of it is live is in person, some of those online. But every single one is not from the Academy of Chiropractic. It's only through, someone has to facilitate or coordinate the academics from the institutions, your credits are earned from these academic institutions mandating, testing. And your professors are medical neurologist, medical physicists, neurosurgeons, vascular neurologist and chiropractors, all of whom were involved at some level of academia, and the chiropractic or medical world.
So yes, you're telling the truth and what you're portraying my credentials, but you're only telling part of the truth. This is the rest of the story. And then at that point in time, if Geico was smart, no, shut up because they just gave you a platform to fully explain to the court, which is the judge when you go through the Voir Dire because they're trying to knock you off of Voir Dire that you have to understand why the Voir Dire versus Daubert. And that's important in this conversation. Voir Dire is when they credential you, Daubert is they credential what you do for instance, a X-Ray digitizing or PFMCS or any of those things.
So right now, they Voir Dire you to see if you qualify as an expert. And what they're saying is you just bought these credentials and didn't have to do anything to earn it. You just pay the fee like every other doctor. And the answer is every doctor has an opportunity to pay the faith. But there's doctors take different courses at different levels and yours are credentialed through Chiropractic Academia or medical academia and the key, and we learned this in the case Lamb v. Allstate, which is in the lowest court in the state of New Jersey. Uh, 10 years ago that case came out, which really introduced me to the New Jersey Trial Lawyers Association, which introduced me to Dan Rosner. He was not president yet, who now lectures for the AAJ, American Association of Justice. He goes all over the country lecturing for the National Trial Lawyers Association. And we discussed this just last week.
So, if you look at the tenets of that New Jersey case and you handle the eight bullet points on that case, you will pass every Voir Dire in the country and get past Geicos arguments. Now, very short question, a very long answer. Did you understand it?
Guest Doctor: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm going to be able to repeat it in three hours.
Dr. Studin: Okay. Why don't you… so, so here, here's the deal.
Guest Doctor: there's more to it.
Dr. Studin: Okay. Give me the more.
Guest Doctor: Okay. And then still the more was they also, um, said this fellowship thing that I'm a candidate for a, what is it? What the heck is a candidate? And you know what, what did the fellow thing, it's just another bunch of bunk doesn't really exist. I looked it up, but I can't find anywhere.
Dr. Studin: Okay, so write this down. Pencil paper time.
Fellowship is a two-year program and this particular fellowship is recognized by Cleveland University, Kansas City chiropractic and health sciences. They see CE accredited chiropractic college. That's number one.
Number two, you are undergoing that 2 year training as we speak.
You haven't finished your two years, but in order to be a fellow candidate you have to finish your classwork to be accepted for that. How many hours Bill?
Guest Doctor: It’s a hundred hours, but I would say that it's a year. I wouldn't get into the hours because they can pick that apart. I did one year of didactic, has to be completed in order to enroll it, enroll in it. And that's all listed on my curriculum vitae by course
Dr. Studin: All right, so you're to be a fellow candidate, you need to finish your didactic or classroom portion, which is one year. I'll put you on hold for one second.
Guest Doctor: Then the other thing that you have to make sure that I would say in there is that in order to…he has to be a licensed a board certified Chiropractic, in order to enroll.
Dr. Studin: Well, you have to be a licensed chiropractor in your state, and you have to have completed one year of classroom work in order to get into that. And the classroom work is listed on your CV. Now let's talk about the Academy of Chiropractic.
Dr. Studin: You Ready, Kevin?
Guest Doctor: Yup.
Dr. Studin: Okay. The Academy of Chiropractic is a middleman or like how do we use the word middleman is a facilitator for the academic entities that sponsor these courses.
As a rule, the academic institutions sponsor the courses, but someone has to organize them, and that's what the Academy of Chiropractic does.
Each course is approved through a CCE which the chiropractic council on education is. A federally recognized chiropractic academic institution and you can list the name of the schools, and many of the courses are also approved by SUNY Buffalo Medical School, the State University of New York at Buffalo School of Medicine.
For ACCGME approved or in conjunction with the accreditation council for Continuing Graduate Medical Education
Kevin, when you go through this to make sure that you talk really slow and you drag this out as long as you possibly can because they'll eventually just cut you off and tell you that they accept you. Okay. You don't have to rush it. You get back. The longer you talk, the stronger you get.
So, and you have to also say that ACCGMA is the umbrella organization that recognizes every academic course in medicine in the United States.
Then you say, yes, you are correct. You do pay a fee to the academy of chiropractic, hundred percent correct. And the Academy of Chiropractic pays all of the credential institutions as part of our management services for these courses.
However, what you are missing in your argument or what's you're missing is the following. Each courses is taught by a chiropractor who teaches in medical academia in chiropractic and medical academia and/or a board certified medical specialist in a specific discipline for instance.
I would say medical specialty, not discipline.
For the MRI course taught by a medical neurologist, neurosurgeon, Medical physicist and chiropractors who teach MRI Spine Interpretation in both chiropractic and medical schools.
The stroke course is taught by a double boarded vascular neurologist who was trained at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine. Just put a double boarded vascular, a neurologist and the rest of the courses follow suit along these lines.
In addition, for every course taken, there's a series of examinations or tests that must be passed with a score of 80% or better.
As an example, the MRI course, in order to earn the credential, I have to pass, take 12 examinations and pass with a score of 80% better for each, and not only disc issues, but spinal cord pathology inclusive of fracture, tumor and infection.
And without wasting the court's time, I could go course by course and give you similar types of explanations.
In conclusion, these courses are all, they've all been approved by chiropractic and medical academia.
They're taught by board certified specialists and medical discipline and chiropractic professors who teach this, and chiropractic and medical academia require a robust amount of examinations, which is the rest of the story that was not being presented by the defense counsel.
Does that fully explain everything you need to know?
Guest Doctor: I think that definitely explains it.
Dr. Studin: And when you're done, just say up yours, but you might want to say that under your breath but you now understand the full breath of what needs to be explained. I want you to go on the corner. You're in the courtroom, correct?
Guest Doctor: Yup.
Dr. Studin: I want you to go in the corner.
Guest Doctor: I am at the office. I've got to go. I've got to leave here in a couple of hours.
Dr. Studin: Oh, go ahead. I want you to shut your door. I want you to say it. I want you to repeat everything that was just on three times. And I want you to say it out loud, not to yourself, out loud and do it in front of a mirror. And never, ever, ever get angry. Mad. Raise your voice. No inflections. Just have a conversation. Listen, I understand what you're saying, but here's the rest of what you didn’t say. So, you've got to have that demeanor, that professorial. Okay. It's collegial, not confrontational. Remember the defense lawyer, as soon as they get you, sorry, you just lost. Even if your information was correct, your demeanor is equal to your words. Don't get angry, don't get mad. Try to keep your answers to yes or no. But if they give you this line, then and let them go through. Let them just hang themselves. You only get, you only have to pay. You only go to the academy of chiropractic. You only do this, only do up. Just let them go on. Do not cut them short after they're finished talking, held to two, this is every question to give your lawyer an opportunity to object.
And your lawyer might not be as quick thinking as you are. So, you have to give them a chance to object. Take a deep breath. Look at the lawyer and look at the jury and where you're giving the answer. You look at the jury and say, here's what the Defense Council left out. And you could go through your whole listening. Okay?
And by the way, you need to take testifying part two. It's all about how to handle cross examination.